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New Silent Spinner is highly dangerous
New Silent Spinner is highly dangerous
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Oct 05 2009
07:05:30 PM
I was at the pet store today picking up some new water bottles and I looked around a little. I decided to take a look at the 12" Silent Spinner exercise wheel with intent to buy it just for fun. I looked it over for a bit and then was horrified by what I saw on the back. Their newer super silent "one of a kind" bearing design uses two additional support wheels on the bottom of the hub to hold the wheel weight. This means that they spin counter to the wheel spin. This is great if you have one large animal using it, but in a cage with 2+ climby jumpy explory sugar gliders, this is a disaster waiting to happen. Those two wheels are just right there hungrily waiting for a face, tail or feet to rip apart.

I cant seem to find a photo of the back of one of these to help explain what Im talking about. Perhaps someone has one and can share.

DONT get one of these.

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Oct 05 2009
07:12:20 PM
our2girlz Goofy Gorillatoes GliderMap Gliderpedia Editor Visit our2girlz's Photo Album United States 2362 Posts
Good info. I think I got a good enough mental pic. As I read I was thinking two wheels rotating = caught tail.
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Oct 05 2009
07:41:49 PM
SariYappa Face Hugger Visit SariYappa's Photo Album USA 413 Posts
So this is a new model then?? Different from what was out there? I have a silent spinner (just one of the wheels I have) and this does not sound familiar?
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Oct 05 2009
08:08:04 PM
kazko Little Bunny FooFoo GliderMap Gliderpedia Editor Visit kazko's Photo Album kazko's Journal TX, USA 6747 Posts
Yeah, it may only be on their largest model, i dunno. Perhaps I should go back and get some photos and look at the others. It's a neat idea but poorly implemented for animal safety to be sure.

The support wheels are around the size of roller blade bearings and they might be 1 to 2" from the center supporting a sub-hub. This distributes the axial load so the main bearing lasts longer and the wheel shouldnt sag or wobble with age. Usually heavy axial loads require an inner and an outer bearing, like in a car wheel hub, so this design puts the outer bearing under the wheel to support it.
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Oct 05 2009
09:54:57 PM
AngieH Face Hugger GliderMap Visit AngieH's Photo Album 934 Posts
does it go around and it also spins? Can you post a pic?

I had a wheel many years ago that did that. It was made by super pet and I had a post about it on glider central after an accident with my glider, Sundown. The wheel had come loose on one side. I found him with his neck stuck in between the plastic and the wheel. We rushed him to the vet and he was ok but it was very scary. I remember waking up my whole house when I started screaming when I found him that way.
I wrote to super pet and never got a reply..I haven't seen these wheels on the market in a long time. I hope they are not the same ones.
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Oct 05 2009
10:07:49 PM
AngieH Face Hugger GliderMap Visit AngieH's Photo Album 934 Posts
Ok, I found the old post. Here is the link:
http://www.glidercentral.net/ubbthreads/ubbthreads.php/topics/33439/Twin_Spin_Danger_Warning#Post33439


These wheels are not glider safe
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Oct 05 2009
10:10:11 PM
Rita Glider Sprinkles GliderMap Gliderpedia Editor Visit Rita's Photo Album Rita's Journal MO, USA 12214 Posts
Terry, thank you for bringing this up. Its so important to get a glider friendly wheel - which is almost impossible to get at most pet shops.
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Oct 06 2009
12:54:58 AM
kazko Little Bunny FooFoo GliderMap Gliderpedia Editor Visit kazko's Photo Album kazko's Journal TX, USA 6747 Posts
Nope, not a Twin Spin. The wheel itself is actually pretty decent and our gliders would love it. If you look in the center, you can see the shadow of the large hub on the back side and on the bottom on each side of the hub are the evil support rollers.



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Oct 06 2009
07:26:03 AM
THEHYLAND Zippy Glidershorts GliderMap Visit THEHYLAND's Photo Album FL, USA 4774 Posts
Thanks for the info. But the stealth is still the best.
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Oct 06 2009
07:34:27 AM
AngieH Face Hugger GliderMap Visit AngieH's Photo Album 934 Posts
I agree, we love our stealth wheels!
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Oct 06 2009
11:37:21 AM
Moriko Face Hugger GliderMap Gliderpedia Editor Visit Moriko's Photo Album Moriko's Journal AL, USA 943 Posts
Thanks for the information. ^^'
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Oct 06 2009
01:43:56 PM
Stevos Joey GliderMap 43 Posts
great...i just bought one of those yesterday. its not in the cage yet, and will be returned tonight.
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Oct 06 2009
01:57:50 PM
our2girlz Goofy Gorillatoes GliderMap Gliderpedia Editor Visit our2girlz's Photo Album United States 2362 Posts
quote:
Originally posted by Stevos

great...i just bought one of those yesterday. its not in the cage yet, and will be returned tonight.

Sounds like you have luck like mine.
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Nov 22 2009
05:36:01 PM
kazko Little Bunny FooFoo GliderMap Gliderpedia Editor Visit kazko's Photo Album kazko's Journal TX, USA 6747 Posts
I went back to the store tonight with camera in hand. I got a few photos of a great way to rip off tails and limbs if you have more than one glider in the cage or tent.

Exposed rollers and raceway like in this new design are extremely dangerous.













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Nov 22 2009
07:04:36 PM
Mikayle Glider GliderMap Visit Mikayle's Photo Album USA 196 Posts
Crap not only is that in Boo's cage but in my chinchilla cage also..Good to know..So Out they both go...
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Nov 22 2009
08:36:16 PM
kazko Little Bunny FooFoo GliderMap Gliderpedia Editor Visit kazko's Photo Album kazko's Journal TX, USA 6747 Posts
Its prolly ok for a single chin, maybe even multiples as long as they dont climb the cage. A single glider probably wont get bit by this either, it's when you have one moving it and another behind it or riding the outside... It happens all the time in my cages.
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Nov 22 2009
09:00:57 PM
Mikayle Glider GliderMap Visit Mikayle's Photo Album USA 196 Posts
My chins are bouncy boys and one is always on and in it. Boo is alone for atleast 2 more weeks (yay friends) Plus with building a bigger cage was going to have to upgrade size wise anyways..Better to just be safe and get it out of the cages and get new ones. They love all love new stuff anyways..
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Jan 03 2011
09:02:06 PM
macawguy Face Hugger Visit macawguy's Photo Album macawguy's Journal 407 Posts
you can attach it to the cage though. does tht effect anything
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Jan 03 2011
09:05:04 PM
KuroNeko Fuzzy Wuzzy Gliderpedia Editor Visit KuroNeko's Photo Album USA 1617 Posts
quote:
Originally posted by macawguy

you can attach it to the cage though. does tht effect anything





...... No it is still dangerous when attached to the cage. It has been known to fall off and trap gliders underneath.

DO NOT USE THIS WHEEL

Edited by - KuroNeko on Jan 03 2011 09:06:52 PM
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Jan 03 2011
09:11:43 PM
TheGliderMommie Glider GliderMap 79 Posts
I had one of those a long time ago. It's not a good wheel for even a single glider, as if they stop running and the wheel keeps going, they go flying. I gave mine to my brother for his rat.
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Jan 04 2011
03:08:53 PM
AUtigers350z Glider AUtigers350z's Journal USA 143 Posts
quote:
Originally posted by TheGliderMommie

I had one of those a long time ago. It's not a good wheel for even a single glider, as if they stop running and the wheel keeps going, they go flying. I gave mine to my brother for his rat.



Evil...
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Jan 04 2011
03:28:20 PM
JcH2290 Glider Visit JcH2290's Photo Album USA 181 Posts
What about the ones that have the back thats like a slit (or maybe like a B?) that can clip on to the cage? What do you guys think about those? I have a wodent wheel and i purchased one of the silent spinners (not this new twin one) to have them use for a couple days when their nails are really trimmed well (so their nails dont get too short)
I couldnt find a good picture of one like what I have but this pic is about the same:



Edited to add: (I dont clip mine to the cage, its on the stand.)

Edited by - JcH2290 on Jan 04 2011 03:52:02 PM
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Jan 04 2011
03:44:59 PM
shadow Goofy Gorillatoes GliderMap Gliderpedia Editor Visit shadow's Photo Album MO, USA 2332 Posts
i would just say no. better to be safe then sorry. its not like the wodent wheel cost an arm and leg. its just another part of having a glider (exotic animal)and getting the correct things for it like their diet and cage.
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Jan 04 2011
06:33:02 PM
Essika Face Hugger GliderMap Visit Essika's Photo Album Essika's Journal ON, CA 581 Posts
quote:
Originally posted by KuroNeko

quote:
Originally posted by macawguy

you can attach it to the cage though. does tht effect anything





...... No it is still dangerous when attached to the cage. It has been known to fall off and trap gliders underneath.

DO NOT USE THIS WHEEL



Mine actually did fall off, I'm so glad I took it out... Tazz was running and did his usual leap out of it and right after he landed the wheel went flying across the cage and narrowly missed him.

I have a wodent wheel in the mail to me now... won't be going back to a silent spinner, that's for sure...
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Jan 04 2011
06:42:46 PM
valkyriemome Goofy Gorillatoes Visit valkyriemome's Photo Album USA 3479 Posts
My hedgehog loves the Silent Spinner! I wouldn't say it is unsafe for ALL animals. Just not for gliders!
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Jan 04 2011
11:08:35 PM
Arna Face Hugger GliderMap Visit Arna's Photo Album CO, USA 541 Posts
I'm working on getting a stealth, Mine broke this model it just spins right off. II'm glad none of them got hurt.
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Jan 05 2011
12:41:57 AM
KuroNeko Fuzzy Wuzzy Gliderpedia Editor Visit KuroNeko's Photo Album USA 1617 Posts
quote:
Originally posted by valkyriemome

My hedgehog loves the Silent Spinner! I wouldn't say it is unsafe for ALL animals. Just not for gliders!



Of course.

You just gave me and idea
My friend was looking at my unsafe wheel collection (giant hamster/rat wheel and the silent spinner) for her hedgie, but I wasn't sure if it would be safe for her to use. Now that I know, I'll call her up and tell her that she can have my silent spinner because it's just sitting and collecting dust lol
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Jan 05 2011
12:44:44 AM
KuroNeko Fuzzy Wuzzy Gliderpedia Editor Visit KuroNeko's Photo Album USA 1617 Posts
quote:
Originally posted by JcH2290

What about the ones that have the back thats like a slit (or maybe like a B?) that can clip on to the cage? What do you guys think about those? I have a wodent wheel and i purchased one of the silent spinners (not this new twin one) to have them use for a couple days when their nails are really trimmed well (so their nails dont get too short)
I couldnt find a good picture of one like what I have but this pic is about the same:



Edited to add: (I dont clip mine to the cage, its on the stand.)



I would say if it's not the Wodent, Stealth/Whirl Wheel, or Custom Cruzer then no.
New Silent Spinner is highly dangerous

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