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Oct 31 2009
12:10:33 PM
Ok, so my best friend has a cat. She and her 6 siblings have had the cat for about 9 years, and now they've decided that they're board of the cat and want sugar glider's.

Now I know that her and all of her brother and sister's, (between the ages of 12-17) can't care for sugar glider's. They forget to feed the cat most of the time, and he's always sick. They think that sugar glider's are some "easy to care for pet" and would be fun "because they're cute." I very [i]kindly/i] told my friend that they're hard to care for, and she just ignores it and said that I just don't want her to get glider's because then i'll be jealous that she has them too.

I don't want her to be mad at me by just flat out saying she shouldn't get sugar glider's. (However I did yell at her for the fact that their family wants to take the cat back to the shelter!)

So my main question: How do I tell her?
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Oct 31 2009
12:22:30 PM
suggieluver02 Face Hugger GliderMap Visit suggieluver02's Photo Album suggieluver02's Journal 442 Posts
be honest. tell her a glider is not fit for her and has many drawbacks. hmm this may sound bad but if u have to tell her all the bad things. persuade her out of it. heavens knows by the sound of it wed lose poor gliders to selfishness!! like i said be honest to her tell her she would not be able to care for it. and if she does not listen, nor believe you and says your jealous? then she was never really a friend in my opinion if she wont even trust or believe you.
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Oct 31 2009
12:33:15 PM
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That's sad. What's worse is that there are so many people out there who think pets are disposable. They get bored or tired of taking care of them so they get rid of them. This story will have a terrible ending if they get gliders to replace their cat. The only good that may come of it is that the kitty MAY get a better home but even that's highly unlikely in a shelter situation. You just need to have a heart to heart with your friend and have as many facts in your arsenal to back up the many, many reasons they should NOT get gliders. Also print the "Pet Drawbacks" and share this with them too. Error, missing URL. s
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Oct 31 2009
12:34:58 PM
suggieluver02 Face Hugger GliderMap Visit suggieluver02's Photo Album suggieluver02's Journal 442 Posts
i agree
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Oct 31 2009
01:35:21 PM
kyro298 Glider Sprinkles GliderMap Gliderpedia Editor Visit kyro298's Photo Album kyro298's Journal CO, USA 15262 Posts
I think you should have her join here. Having a cat vs. sugar gliders is a whole different level of care in so many ways.
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Oct 31 2009
01:39:27 PM
suggie_mom Super Glider GliderMap Visit suggie_mom's Photo Album suggie_mom's Journal USA 345 Posts
Thanks for the suggestions :) I'll definitely print out drawbacks. I would flat out tell her it's just...She's, stubborn. You tell her the truth, and it only makes her want glider's that much more just so she can prove a point to me.
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Oct 31 2009
01:46:49 PM
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Can you have her spend the night and have her take care of your gliders? Maybe do it on a weekend and have her clean the cage, do the fleece laundry, and prepare their food and then stick her in a tent with them for play time! I would make sure you help minimally and tell her "hey your siblings won't be helping either, who do you think the work will fall on?!" Chances are the cleaning, cooking, and nails/poo/pee in the tent will turn her off!
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Oct 31 2009
02:40:04 PM
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You're wasting your breath and your time on a waste of space like this. I'm sorry if that sounds harsh, but I find people like this utterly DISGUSTING. She has had that poor cat for nine years. NINE YEARS! And she would rather KILL that poor animal than allow it to live the remainder of it's life out in peace and in a home. Forget the gliders, I pity any children she ever has if that is an example of her interpretation of commitment.

I have taken care of pretty much every pet and livestock animal out there, and although gliders arethe smallest critters in that lineup, the are some of the most complex. These guys are exotic, not domestic. If you can't take care of one cat which is one of the easiest animals in the world to provide for, then you have no business even THINKING about taking home something that is the equivalent of a zoo animal. 

The only reason this selfish, self centered, and spoiled child wants a glider is because YOU have one. That's it. And like a spoiled child, when she finally gets her new coveted toy she'll play with it for about five minutes but as soon as she breaks it or she gets bored she'll throw it away. Heck, the first time the glider bites her or pees on her she'll probably turn it loose outside or conveniently forget to feed it for a week so it will "accidentally" die.

You can't reason with someone who has this mentality. The more you try, the more determined she will be to "win". Whether you realize it or not, this has become a competition to her. It's not about the glider. She's just jealous that you have something she's decided she should also have. Not because she really wants one, but because she's so insecure she can't stand the idea of you having something she doesn't. That's why she makes the snide little comments to you every time you try to help her understand how complex they are. I would no more associate with someone like this, then I would subscribe to their way of thinking.

You are better off finding yourself a new friend and getting far away from this person.
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Oct 31 2009
03:38:33 PM
suggie_mom Super Glider GliderMap Visit suggie_mom's Photo Album suggie_mom's Journal USA 345 Posts
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Originally posted by prdycool

Can you have her spend the night and have her take care of your gliders? Maybe do it on a weekend and have her clean the cage, do the fleece laundry, and prepare their food and then stick her in a tent with them for play time! I would make sure you help minimally and tell her "hey your siblings won't be helping either, who do you think the work will fall on?!" Chances are the cleaning, cooking, and nails/poo/pee in the tent will turn her off!



I'm not sure I trust her enough to do this! She'd probably end up sitting, stepping, on one of the poor guy's :(
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Oct 31 2009
03:41:16 PM
suggie_mom Super Glider GliderMap Visit suggie_mom's Photo Album suggie_mom's Journal USA 345 Posts
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Originally posted by Dahlia_2020

You're wasting your breath and your time on a waste of space like this. I'm sorry if that sounds harsh, but I find people like this utterly DISGUSTING. She has had that poor cat for nine years. NINE YEARS! And she would rather KILL that poor animal than allow it to live the remainder of it's life out in peace and in a home. Forget the gliders, I pity any children she ever has if that is an example of her interpretation of commitment.

I have taken care of pretty much every pet and livestock animal out there, and although gliders arethe smallest critters in that lineup, the are some of the most complex. These guys are exotic, not domestic. If you can't take care of one cat which is one of the easiest animals in the world to provide for, then you have no business even THINKING about taking home something that is the equivalent of a zoo animal. 

The only reason this selfish, self centered, and spoiled child wants a glider is because YOU have one. That's it. And like a spoiled child, when she finally gets her new coveted toy she'll play with it for about five minutes but as soon as she breaks it or she gets bored she'll throw it away. Heck, the first time the glider bites her or pees on her she'll probably turn it loose outside or conveniently forget to feed it for a week so it will "accidentally" die.

You can't reason with someone who has this mentality. The more you try, the more determined she will be to "win". Whether you realize it or not, this has become a competition to her. It's not about the glider. She's just jealous that you have something she's decided she should also have. Not because she really wants one, but because she's so insecure she can't stand the idea of you having something she doesn't. That's why she makes the snide little comments to you every time you try to help her understand how complex they are. I would no more associate with someone like this, then I would subscribe to their way of thinking.

You are better off finding yourself a new friend and getting far away from this person.



You make perfect sense when you say not to be her friend. But i've known her since pre-school, and you learn to grow used to people like her after such a long amount of time. Unless it's my last option, I'll try not to let it ruin our friendship (which isn't all that strong anyways, though.)
-However, if it comes to the point where she's getting ready to buy one, then i'll do all it takes.
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Oct 31 2009
10:48:40 PM
suggieluver02 Face Hugger GliderMap Visit suggieluver02's Photo Album suggieluver02's Journal 442 Posts
but if she thinks of u as competition is she really a friend? or b/c of her not believing u? is it worth it to let animals get hurt and die?
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Oct 31 2009
10:50:59 PM
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im sorry but what she said is true.
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Originally posted by Dahlia_2020

You're wasting your breath and your time on a waste of space like this. I'm sorry if that sounds harsh, but I find people like this utterly DISGUSTING. She has had that poor cat for nine years. NINE YEARS! And she would rather KILL that poor animal than allow it to live the remainder of it's life out in peace and in a home. Forget the gliders, I pity any children she ever has if that is an example of her interpretation of commitment.

I have taken care of pretty much every pet and livestock animal out there, and although gliders arethe smallest critters in that lineup, the are some of the most complex. These guys are exotic, not domestic. If you can't take care of one cat which is one of the easiest animals in the world to provide for, then you have no business even THINKING about taking home something that is the equivalent of a zoo animal. 

The only reason this selfish, self centered, and spoiled child wants a glider is because YOU have one. That's it. And like a spoiled child, when she finally gets her new coveted toy she'll play with it for about five minutes but as soon as she breaks it or she gets bored she'll throw it away. Heck, the first time the glider bites her or pees on her she'll probably turn it loose outside or conveniently forget to feed it for a week so it will "accidentally" die.

You can't reason with someone who has this mentality. The more you try, the more determined she will be to "win". Whether you realize it or not, this has become a competition to her. It's not about the glider. She's just jealous that you have something she's decided she should also have. Not because she really wants one, but because she's so insecure she can't stand the idea of you having something she doesn't. That's why she makes the snide little comments to you every time you try to help her understand how complex they are. I would no more associate with someone like this, then I would subscribe to their way of thinking.

You are better off finding yourself a new friend and getting far away from this person.

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Oct 31 2009
10:51:20 PM
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No! it's never worth that! I was just saying that if it really comes to the point where she's ready to go buy them, then I'll risk friendship.
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Oct 31 2009
10:55:14 PM
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im saying it is your choice im not trying to pressure you i posted an earlier one with muy opinion c:
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Originally posted by suggieluver02

be honest. tell her a glider is not fit for her and has many drawbacks. hmm this may sound bad but if u have to tell her all the bad things. persuade her out of it. heavens knows by the sound of it wed lose poor gliders to selfishness!! like i said be honest to her tell her she would not be able to care for it. and if she does not listen, nor believe you and says your jealous? then she was never really a friend in my opinion if she wont even trust or believe you.

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Oct 31 2009
11:01:27 PM
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my thoughts is do what you can to persuade her out of it.. chances are she'll get them and wont take care of them thats were you step in and rescue the kids.. if you have room maybe you could keep them if not you may be able to talk her into giving them over to you until you can find them a new home this is very unfortunate
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Nov 01 2009
01:18:59 AM
Dahlia_2020 Fuzzy Wuzzy GliderMap Visit Dahlia_2020's Photo Album SC, USA 1419 Posts
Assuming she would even admit she made a mistake and would do what was best for the glider and give it up to someone who knew how to take care of it. Jury is still out on that.

Here is the breakdown. I'm hearing a lot of excuses to ignore that little voice inside of you telling you that what your friend has been doing is wrong. That is on you. I can understand not wanting to be the bad person in the relationship but the instant an animal's life is on the line ( like that cat's life is) then you need to make a choice between what is safe and what is right. Right now, you're thinking about the potential future gliders that might enter the picture but think about that poor cat. Think about the past pets that might have already bit the dust. How is their lives any less special than a gliders? When it comes right down to it, how can you justify a friendship with someone who views animals as so disposable as your friend?

Don't get me wrong, sweetie, this isn't a personal attack. I've been in the same situation as you, only worse and with family... that was how my first glider came to me. He belonged to my brother, Who was sixteen years older than me but still didn't get it. That poor glider died just a couple of months after I got him from my brother because I couldn't fix the damage already done. THAT was my first experience with a glider and it was utterly heartbreaking. It can be hard to do what is right. But at the end of the day, the only person that you have to answer to is the one staring back at you in the mirror. Are you happy with what you see? If not, then change it. I've already told you how to do it. The rest is up to you.
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Nov 01 2009
11:32:11 AM
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i agree
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Nov 01 2009
11:49:48 AM
suggie_mom Super Glider GliderMap Visit suggie_mom's Photo Album suggie_mom's Journal USA 345 Posts
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Originally posted by jbsgirl1423

my thoughts is do what you can to persuade her out of it.. chances are she'll get them and wont take care of them thats were you step in and rescue the kids.. if you have room maybe you could keep them if not you may be able to talk her into giving them over to you until you can find them a new home this is very unfortunate



That actually could work...! I have plenty of room for 1-2 more glider's, and i've been keeping my eye out for more anyways. So I could let her get them, make sure she takes care of them for a month or so, and when she get's board I'll just pay her $30.00-$40.00 bucks to take them.

That way she's happy and feel's like she proved a point, and I get to expand my glider family and help some suggies :)
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Nov 01 2009
11:55:26 AM
suggieluver02 Face Hugger GliderMap Visit suggieluver02's Photo Album suggieluver02's Journal 442 Posts
exactly!!! i should work seeing how ur "friend" thinks pets are disposable.
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Nov 01 2009
12:18:08 PM
suggie_mom Super Glider GliderMap Visit suggie_mom's Photo Album suggie_mom's Journal USA 345 Posts
I just got off the phone with her. I guess what I said before had a SMALL impact on her. (However, I think she just said that, because I have a feeling what really happened was that her mom said NO.) Yay mom!
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Nov 01 2009
12:23:18 PM
suggieluver02 Face Hugger GliderMap Visit suggieluver02's Photo Album suggieluver02's Journal 442 Posts
woohoo!! yay!!!
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Nov 01 2009
12:27:26 PM
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i dont know any other way to describe how i feel about it!!
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