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Feb 08 2010
04:11:09 AM
Hello - I am a new member of this website... I have wanted sugar glider joeys for I dont know how long now- And i've finally decided to take the leap... I am currently looking for 2 female joeys, preferably sisters =) I am in fact speaking to another member of this site and i MAY be getting my new babies from her at the end of april! Which is a fantastic belated Bday gift for myself (My bday is the 17th!)... Besides that not much is going on- just looking for a deal on toys/pouches/etc and a cage for cheap...I dont have much money so i need to find a good deal where i can get it... I was hoping to find a decently large cage, a bonding pouch and toys for under 200$... who knows if ill be able to pull that off..

If anyone reads this and knows of a way i can get my hands on a decent PVC coated cage comfortable for 2 babies please email or PM me!
Oh yeah and I am also just looking for people willing to chat and share some insider tips on bonding... I know the regular stuff like leaving them in peace for the first 2 days, being confident when going to grab them for bonding time, etc... But nothing beats first hand experience stories!

THANKS! Happy Glidin'!
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Feb 08 2010
04:40:25 AM
kyro298 Glider Sprinkles GliderMap Gliderpedia Editor Visit kyro298's Photo Album kyro298's Journal CO, USA 15262 Posts
Welcome! Just wanted to point out a few things for you...

Before you get them, I would put money aside for an emergency vet fund (and find an exotic vet that treats them). If you are concerned about costs, this is very important. Second, if you use the search up top and the Gliderpedia, you can get lots of info about bonding, diet, behavior, etc... You mentioned being confident when grabbing them. Confident or not, theu probably won't go for it. LOL Most do not tolerate being held in your hands nor do they like it. That's normal. You'll find they will interact with you when they learn to trust you. If you go to grab them, they'll probably grab onto anything in reach and hold on for dear life. If you have specific questions, don't be afraid to ask!
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Feb 08 2010
06:53:37 AM
our2girlz Goofy Gorillatoes GliderMap Gliderpedia Editor Visit our2girlz's Photo Album United States 2362 Posts
Here is a link to a cage you could make yourself you can get a lot more cage for less money. Also have you consider adopting or rescueing a couple of suggies? There are many, many gliders in need of forever homes.http://justforfuzzies.com/Other_Stuff/Cage/index.html
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Feb 08 2010
02:12:15 PM
EsC87 Glider EsC87's Journal 152 Posts
@Kyro - Thanks for the warm welcome =) Money aside for a vet visit is already in the works as ill be taking the girls to the vet right after i purchase them, just to make sure they have a squeaky clean bill of health before i bring them home. But you bring up a good point of having some aside for AFTER... i hadnt thought of that! lol "They probably wont go for it" yeah i've seen that on plenty of youtube videos of people going through the bonding process...the poor babies are so scared at first, but i know it pays off in lifetime love! So I'm very excited even if it WILL be hard on my hands and fingers.... One specific question that comes to mind is how tolerant they are of barking? As in dog barking... we have 2 pomeranians here at home... (i don't plan to play with the girls in their presence/ at least not at first for everyones safety) But the reason i ask is because sometimes they go into barking fits furing the day for 2-4 min at a time so idk if that will have a severe impact on the suggies?

@our2girlz - Building a cage?!? Wow never thought of that either! Are they reliable though? Ill check out the link THANKS... And about the rescues i in fact did look into that FIRST, but MOST of the suggies i did find had self mutilation issues already and i dont think I'm experienced enough to 'rehabilitate' suggies since these will be my very first pair and i didnt wanna risk it.
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Feb 08 2010
04:51:37 PM
Megs06 BANNED_ACCOUNT Gliderpedia Editor Visit Megs06's Photo Album USA 1 Posts
I personally have not built a cage or used one, but I hear they are quite reliable. A good number of users on this site have made their own and love them.

Finding a vet is relatively easy; you can look up top under the resources; I'm spending some of my time adding some as well (I get bored at work haha).

Also.. go to suzsugargliders.com/nosewaccessories. I made 5 cage pouches and 3 bonding pouches for under $10. I know the sound of making something like that sounds horribly difficult, as a lot of items are difficult to MAKE, but these were VERY easy, just a tad time consuming.

If you look at the pics I have up on my profile the blanket and the pouches in the background *I* made from that site. It's loads of fun, really.

Toys.. hmm... you CAN check on craigslist, but I had NO luck there.
I ended up getting a couple things as Wal Mart and the rest from Clark's Pet Emporium. I don't know if that's necessarily a more local type pet shop or not, but if it is, just go to a pet shop. They're pretty cheap.
The most I spend was $13 for a 'ladder' that bends and you can reshape. I think you can also see that in a pic or two of mine.
My girls LOVE it.



I personally also use the Rep-Cal phosphorus free (pink label) and Rep-Cal Herpavite (blue label) that I got from the pet store. If you have questions and stuff while you're there, see if somebody there might be experienced, even owners of Sugar Gliders that work there.
I got lucky; I needed help finding something for a different pet of mine and figured while I had the guy there to ask for the 2 Rep-Cals; he noticed in my basket the toys and said 'you have sugar gliders', and that's when I told him I was gunna be getting them 'in an hour', when he told me he's an owner and etc.

Also, (sorry to be long winded ^_^) but the suzsugargliders website I gave you earlier also has a lot of other great tips, including feeding and bonding.

And most of all... WELCOME AND GOOD LUCK!
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Feb 08 2010
05:14:21 PM
EsC87 Glider EsC87's Journal 152 Posts
Thanks so much for all the info Megs - It is really helpful. even though i probably wont have any gliders at home for a few more months. I am starting to realize it was VERY smart of me to start doing so much research before hand. I dont want to be caught off guard thats for sure. I will check the website straight away- I myself was thinking of making my own bonding pouches, braids, etc....but i dont think ill be very good at it... i def dont know how to sew so i'd have to learn that first haha
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Feb 08 2010
06:11:10 PM
Megs06 BANNED_ACCOUNT Gliderpedia Editor Visit Megs06's Photo Album USA 1 Posts
The items on that site are all NO SEW. Their little nails and toes can get caught causing injury, which is what makes those do it yourself pouches so awesome. They're easy, come out nice if you follow the directions and take your time, and won't hurt your babies.

I did my research for a week before I got my babies. The first night I read so much material (about 5 hours) and decided THAT NIGHT I wanted my babies. But yes.. It is very wise that you're doing your research. Starting to get your items now is better than me.. I had to get everything together in a 3 day period... cage, make pouches, get foods and start cutting and freezing, etc. I put a lot of work into it all, needless to say, given how much there is to do and the fact that I had 3 days. O_O

But that site is amazing and you'll love it. =D
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Feb 08 2010
06:13:26 PM
filly47 Goofy Gorillatoes Gliderpedia Editor Visit filly47's Photo Album USA 2330 Posts
Hey there! Welcome! I wish I had cool smileys to welcome you in but alas I do not! Personally I love this board and the members are so fast and helpful if you have a question! It seems as though we have a few new owners on here lately including Meg! Just saw pics of her babies yesterday that she got just a few days ago. She might be a really good partner in the newbie process! Of course we were al there at one point! And applause for you getting 2 gliders! So many people think they will do fine with just one, but there are far more stories on the tragedy of single gliders, so you are doing both a favor by getting them buddies!

You really can save a lot of money by making your own pouches! No sew items are fun and easy and if you can sew you can make even more complex toys and pouches. I would suggest buying a bonding pouch unless you are very certain of your sewing skills! Gliders are not cheap, but you can start looking at Goodwill and yardsales for plastic baby toys. Also keep a lookout at your pet store for any bird toys or small mammal toys on sale! Gliders don't have a toy/supply section at a store-so you get to be creative! Think like a little monkey, because that is the kind of toys our marsupial buddies like!

I made my own cage but it cost me about $200 in all but I did a bit more (adding branches and the like with pvc). I'll post pics later.

Keep us updated on your progress and research! Welcome! Welcome! Welcoooommmmmmeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!
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Feb 08 2010
06:14:27 PM
suppressedtearz Fuzzy Wuzzy GliderMap Gliderpedia Editor Visit suppressedtearz's Photo Album USA 1066 Posts
quote:
Originally posted by EsC87

. One specific question that comes to mind is how tolerant they are of barking? As in dog barking... we have 2 pomeranians here at home... (i don't plan to play with the girls in their presence/ at least not at first for everyones safety) But the reason i ask is because sometimes they go into barking fits furing the day for 2-4 min at a time so idk if that will have a severe impact on the suggies?



I'm sure it's going to be rather frightening for them, loud noises are very startling especially on little ears.

And as for your remark about playing with them in the presence of the dogs, but not at first. Please don't do this AT ALL. Unfortunately for the boards one of our members have just lost one of her babies at the mouth of one of her dogs. It was a very sad accident, but just another point that our gliders and other animals just don't mix.

But welcome to the boards!
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Feb 08 2010
08:18:46 PM
Megs06 BANNED_ACCOUNT Gliderpedia Editor Visit Megs06's Photo Album USA 1 Posts
quote:
Originally posted by filly47



You really can save a lot of money by making your own pouches! No sew items are fun and easy and if you can sew you can make even more complex toys and pouches. I would suggest buying a bonding pouch unless you are very certain of your sewing skills!



I made my bonding pouches without sewing. Check out Suzsugargliders.com/nosewaccessories.htm
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Feb 08 2010
08:50:13 PM
filly47 Goofy Gorillatoes Gliderpedia Editor Visit filly47's Photo Album USA 2330 Posts
Really? That would be cool to see the new sew bonding pouch! Is it safe and sturdy with ventilation? Checking it out now!
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Feb 08 2010
09:25:04 PM
filly47 Goofy Gorillatoes Gliderpedia Editor Visit filly47's Photo Album USA 2330 Posts
I looked at that bonding pouch and I personally am afraid that it is not glider proof-they could wiggle out of the top. I am also worried that without a screen there is not proper ventilation. Those are my thoughts.
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Feb 08 2010
10:01:09 PM
Megs06 BANNED_ACCOUNT Gliderpedia Editor Visit Megs06's Photo Album USA 1 Posts
My suggies love them. They're warm and they don't seem to have any issues breathing.
They don't get out of the top either; I pull the string tight.
I understand people are worried of the dangers; there's another thread circulating with a link inside about somebody whose suggie was strangled by putting her head through one of the holes.

To me this is why you need to check out your items regularly. I actually look at mine every night. This is when it's ok to be 'over protected'. =)
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Feb 08 2010
10:14:59 PM
suppressedtearz Fuzzy Wuzzy GliderMap Gliderpedia Editor Visit suppressedtearz's Photo Album USA 1066 Posts
Checking your things everyday would have most likely not stopped that glider from being strangled. There are spaces between each knot in no sew items.

And I agree with Filly, no screen for breathing, and I wouldn't feel comfortable with the way the pouch closes. They could get stuck and strangled trying to get out of it. Frankly I don't think I myself could comfortably breathe tied in a fabric bag with no ventilation.
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Feb 09 2010
01:36:03 AM
EsC87 Glider EsC87's Journal 152 Posts
I want to thank everyone for all the info and opinions.

As for making my own pouches and hammocks etc...i think ill use the No Sew approach for hammocks, blankies, and maybe a tent and braids...

As for a bonding or sleeping pouch im gunna try to actually sew those with mesh windows and a zipper.

Thanks for all the input everyone. =)

Ill make sure to keep my dogs away from the cage they will be in...
But im afriad i cant do much about the dogs barking as we've tried training them for years now...they are just yippie dogs =(
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Feb 09 2010
01:46:11 AM
EsC87 Glider EsC87's Journal 152 Posts
---I read the posts about dave's glider and feel deeply saddened that this occured. Even if i dont make no sew pouches i will make sure to check for tightness in my other no sew toys! =(
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Feb 09 2010
03:03:21 PM
EsC87 Glider EsC87's Journal 152 Posts
UPDATE: Ill be talking to Krysa over the phone tomorrow about possibly visiting the girls up in Chandler, AZ and putting down a deposit after i check everything out.

IM excited! =) My mom is starting to try and deter my new sugar glider mania- but i think resistance is futile lol
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Feb 11 2010
01:54:30 AM
gypsyNnightcrawlersMOM Glider GliderMap Visit gypsyNnightcrawlersMOM's Photo Album AZ, USA 150 Posts
I would love to have you visit them =]
and as for the barking and dogs thing, i have many pets other than suggies, so the girls are used to barking and all kinds of noises. and my chihuahua sleeps in my room with me so when i let the suggies out at night of course he is in the room with them. The suggies are pretty interested in him but he really doesnt care abt them. haha actually when nightcrawler was younger he used to ride on my chihuahas back for a few seconds. So the girls will get used to your dogs barking, that wont be a problem.
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Feb 11 2010
03:01:00 AM
suppressedtearz Fuzzy Wuzzy GliderMap Gliderpedia Editor Visit suppressedtearz's Photo Album USA 1066 Posts
....wow. That's just downright irresponsible in my opinion. I mean really? That's like letting a baby play with a pitbull.

Yeah you can say he wouldn't hurt a fly all you want, but when nice animals get irritated they bite. Point blank. They have a breaking point, and they attack. Why take the risk of that happening?

When my cousin was probably about 12 her dog attacked her for no reason, practically ripped her face off. The dog had never done such a thing as even bark at a stranger or try to bite anyone.

Not to mention a member of ours JUST lost one of her gliders to her dog, and she kept the gliders away from her dog.

And you're putting yours in danger intentionally. So yeah. Stupid.

Edited by - suppressedtearz on Feb 11 2010 03:03:54 AM
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Feb 11 2010
03:17:05 AM
EsC87 Glider EsC87's Journal 152 Posts
I have heard of a few lucky people having good supervised interactions b/w their dogs & suggies- But i am assuming that isnt very common. I for one dont trust my male dog Valentino as he is VERY jealous and territorial, and my girl Shakira never really leaves his side...so idk i cant risk it myself.
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Feb 11 2010
03:20:11 AM
EsC87 Glider EsC87's Journal 152 Posts
Hey Kysa - BTW the no sew accessories are in a link on this page above =) I forgot what the website for the sewing ones was exactly but you can find it at sugarsliders.com i think =) Good luck it took me a while to get the sewing really tight but my Cage pouch turn out pretty well and looks seamless!

My bf was asking me a few min ago about going to Chandler, so i think he really IS gunna drive me up there! I just need to get the OK from my mom. . . haha Ill keep you updated
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Feb 11 2010
11:04:52 PM
gypsyNnightcrawlersMOM Glider GliderMap Visit gypsyNnightcrawlersMOM's Photo Album AZ, USA 150 Posts
ok i will look =]

oh that would be cool, hope she says yes
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