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johngault007 Joey  USA 23 Posts Well, yes, he was the vet that was there when the baby passed. I explained the conditions surrounding where the baby came from and of course he agreed that many babies in one small area wasn't healthy. Even when he was examining Nala, He kept the office lights off and used indirect light as much as possible. He was very gentle, never restrained here beyond what was necessary to keep her from escaping, she actually calmed down to a point where he was able to examine her. He kept the office lights off and used indirect light as much as possible. I want to make sure that even if the vet has some misinformation, that we can provide resources or references for them and not challenge their profession and put them on the defensive. If you think about it, how would you feel if somebody off the street came in to your office and told you that you were doing your job wrong because they read on a website or forum that it should be done another way? johngault007 Joey  USA 23 Posts Can we re-name this thread "How do I know if this vet is right for me" ? Basically, I think I was trying to start a thread asking experienced owners: * What to ask during their initial visit to a new vet? * What questions should we be asking during subsequent visits. * What are signs that a vet might not have extensive knowledge about gliders? * Just because they mention ASGV, does that mean they are completely untrustworthy (factual evidence only please)? Please read above as I describe he was very gentle and comfortable handling Nala, remember, she is a sassy female that doesn't like to be handled by anyone, trust or no trust. He did not push ASGV or Triple P agendas and did not handle the gliders as the "Doctors" on the videos show. The vet was found through this site: www.sugarglider.com/links.asp
which led to this: www.aemv.org/vetlist.cfm
suppressedtearz Fuzzy Wuzzy      USA 1066 Posts I found my vet per Candy, and compared to any dog/cat veterinarian she was the most superb vet I had ever had the experience of meeting. While we talked she told me how she came about taking care of gliders, and openly admitted that one of her Glider Mom's (Candy) even knew well more about them than she did. Later on as we discussed things she pointed out that one of her previous vet techs went to nursing school where I lived, and asked if I knew her. And yes, I had graduated with her. So I had another reference to tell me what a fabulous vet she was. The whole staff handled my girls with absolute love, talking to them, trying to calm them down, and even when Luna bit the tech she never missed a beat and kept going on with what she doing (she said it was her own fault) My vet offered me a nutrition list that Candy had made, full of the do's and don'ts of foods. She explained me how thorough they were with their fecal tests and told me a story about a past patient that she just KNEW had parasites but they couldn't find them in the smear. She said they did 5 smears until they found the parasites. Most of this information was clearly volunteered to me. When I called around for vets, they were all very honest in telling me that they either had little or no experience with gliders. And some gladly referred me to a vet they felt could better handle them. I'm so sorry to make this post so long and drawn out, but finding the right vet for your little ones is so very important. johngault007 Joey  USA 23 Posts Catman, thank you. This vet doesn't pretend to know all the answers, especially when it comes to complete nutritional care. He only mentioned that doctor by name, but didn't push his products or methods, simply gave me another piece of reference material. He is starting to see up to 5 gliders a month, and the way he treated Nala, I can only say that he cares for their well being during the entire process. She was no more stressed than when I take her out in her bonding pouch around town with me. I will spend most of my time looking at all information (hard right and hard left) and sort of balance out the facts and provide my glider(s) with the best possible care. And this vet knows that and is willing to help me achieve that and learn something in the process. our2girlz Goofy Gorillatoes       United States 2362 Posts quote: Originally posted by Catman
Bad pellets!!!
  nurseotter Glider   TX, USA 85 Posts Yes, he kept one of his suggies in a pouch inside his shirt under his zipped up lab coat. He brought it out after my gliders were put away and he had washed his hands. And yes, he does say that he has some funding from triple P. And the book that I saw was typed up pages and pictures from a computer, that he hadn't gotten it publishd yet. Just like the information you get here... not all of it can be believed and not all true. Research needs to be done by everyone no matter who tells them what. He told me things that he had experienced and that he felt were good for gliders. I like him, and while he tells me some things that I may not find to be true for my gliders, I will continue to go to him and take my babies there. My gosh... do we have to blast everyone on here? I would rather go to a vet that has experience with suggies than go to a closer vet who says he deals with exotics but had to look everything up in a book when I had questions... Anyways... if you wanna be a good parent you don't just take one persons advise and do things just that way... you find ways that work for you and your babies.... and my four babies are very important to me! Audra
johngault007 Joey  USA 23 Posts Not defending them, they are not good. But if I don't judge people's opinion's on this forum, I will not discount someone's "research" either. He may be funded by PPP, but that is a fact of life when you need money to further advance knowledge. Drug companies, food companies, and pet supply companies do this every day. His videos are sort of cheesy and are funded by PPP, but I have never read anything he has published, so I can't say outside of his promo videos, what his agenda is. Based on "fact", a client, he hasn't killed a glider or harmed any of his clients, so with that, seems to at least be a decent vet. I do know he doesn't dismiss a balanced BML,Veggie,Fruit diet. But PPP pays the bills and he has to discourage people on those videos that are tailored for that audience. I think I will take a few steps back and just continue to research quietly from all sources. I will post happy thoughts and talk about the happy things in life, like tents and toys. Because, that is working with making my glider emotionally healthy. I apologize for starting this thread in hopes of generating an informational discussion and not realizing that people are very emotionally charged. I am trying to ensure due diligence in all aspects of my glider's life. She is wonderful, and demands that I give her everything I can!
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