Poll Question: Someone brought this up in chat and I'm just posting it for them to make it easier! We're just talking about a place to post reviews and comments on any potential people or businesses dealing with gliders. Be it people selling pouches, people breeding joeys, even rescues.. Whatever you want to share with the rest of the community, whatever you feel they need to know! You can post photos of the items you've received from vendors, photos you've taken when visiting breeders, etc. EDIT: We'd like to add a SELLER BEWARE too! For notifying others out there of people who have scammed, broken contract, who knows what. Choices: That sounds great! No, I don''t think so. Other (Explain with comment in thread!)

I feel like every forum should have a Buyer beware AND a Vendor beware. Because yes there are bad vendors, but there are also bad customers. Sorry if that's a dumb idea, but that's just my $0.02 worth :D

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Originally posted by eschiavoni2

I feel like every forum should have a Buyer beware AND a Vendor beware. Because yes there are bad vendors, but there are also bad customers. Sorry if that's a dumb idea, but that's just my $0.02 worth :D

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Nonono, VERY valid point and a great addition to the poll and request!

There are scammers out there, people who break contract, lie, don't send money or what not. GREAT point!

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Originally posted by Kozi Gliders

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Originally posted by eschiavoni2

I feel like every forum should have a Buyer beware AND a Vendor beware. Because yes there are bad vendors, but there are also bad customers. Sorry if that's a dumb idea, but that's just my $0.02 worth :D

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Nonono, VERY valid point and a great addition to the poll and request!

There are scammers out there, people who break contract, lie, don't send money or what not. GREAT point!

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Haha, thank you! Glad I had a good point

The only problem I see with say the Buyer Beware idea is it can be labeled slander since there aren't really any black and white rules for the care of breeding gliders. What most of us would see as neglect and sometimes out right abuse, from a legal aspect might not be so clear cut. If we start doing this we would have to do it without using exact names which while covering our butts kinda defeats the purpose to the general browser.

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Originally posted by NayluBaby

The only problem I see with say the Buyer Beware idea is it can be labeled slander since there aren't really any black and white rules for the care of breeding gliders. What most of us would see as neglect and sometimes out right abuse, from a legal aspect might not be so clear cut. If we start doing this we would have to do it without using exact names which while covering our butts kinda defeats the purpose to the general browser.

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I think the buyer beware idea would be more for payment/contract issues - like not finishing paying for a glider(or glider items), breeding a glider sold on a pet only contract, selling a glider that had a return clause, etc. Hopefully neglect/abuse isn't as big of a problem - but if it is, I don't see how its slander if someone posts exactly what they saw as the conditions of the glider(especially if they have it back and have vet records to back it up). If they stick to the "facts", rather than name-calling, it shouldn't be a problem legally.

I've seen them on other forums and it's not like an angry thread for the people to battle it out. It's for people who have actually flat out been scammed.

I think it's a good idea BUT I think other forums have active Mods that scan the info. & make sure nothing gets out of hand. I've actually only seen one buyer beware where the person being accused had a rebutal, other than that it was just a statement of the account,...then nothing.

It could always be tried and if it doesn't work the Mods can remove it.

i agree with petluv. This is more about scams and payment issues- at least that is waht i would like to see

I do feel it should be run by the mods/owner. Otherwise things could get out of hand, and it could just become a matter of personal issues that have nothing to doing with scamming or 'sub-par' products.

I think this is a FABULOUS idea. I do think it should extend beyond payment and scamming issues as there are more ways to be a breeder of caution. I do agree that there should be some formation of moderation on that particular type of posting area. There are many reasons that someone could post things falsely just to damage a reputation. We have seen in done... a lot.

To some degree, we do this already - we just don't have them all in one place for a potential buyer to peruse with ease. In the forums - you would almost need to search by the breeders name.

We could have a different section of buyer beware, as in toys and cage sets, etc. and a section of basic info about breeders. They could post their info as a breeder, how they take care of joeys, and people who have dealt with them can post comments to add info or say they're not telling the truth. I wouldn't mind a breeder or rescue section, maybe looked up by state. It would be nice to know from the breeder and from clients exactly what they're about, how the joeyes turned out. Just brainstorming at this point.

Yes, because how can sellers know how to improve their business when we have to literally seek out the buyer and ask? It's also nice to know who's trying to scam me as well. I tend to think of my fellow forum members as brethren and take my defense down a little when dealing with a lot of you... but there are those who are posing as people who seem genuine but are cons. SO yes! I think a review section would be wonderful! <3

I think it is a good idea! Another idea I would like to throw out there is maybe also an area regarding vets. I don't think I have seen on this site where you can post good or bad reviews on particular vets. I had a horrible experience with a vet in my area and I think it would benefit people that are looking for reputable vets in their area to read reviews from members here on GG that have been to these vets and which ones are good and which ones not to trust. If that makes any sense?

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Originally posted by fazioli

I think it is a good idea! Another idea I would like to throw out there is maybe also an area regarding vets. I don't think I have seen on this site where you can post good or bad reviews on particular vets. I had a horrible experience with a vet in my area and I think it would benefit people that are looking for reputable vets in their area to read reviews from members here on GG that have been to these vets and which ones are good and which ones not to trust. If that makes any sense?

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This makes SO much sense, I agree entirely.

I've heard horror stories of vets handling gliders badly.. some vets will even offer to 'see' your glider when they've never done so before and know nothing about them.. just A: another client and more $$$ and B: oh hey, it's another rodent, why not? Sad but true. I ALWAYS ask if vets have prior experience with gliders now when I call looking for a vet for whatever reason.

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Originally posted by Kozi Gliders

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Originally posted by fazioli

I think it is a good idea! Another idea I would like to throw out there is maybe also an area regarding vets. I don't think I have seen on this site where you can post good or bad reviews on particular vets. I had a horrible experience with a vet in my area and I think it would benefit people that are looking for reputable vets in their area to read reviews from members here on GG that have been to these vets and which ones are good and which ones not to trust. If that makes any sense?

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This makes SO much sense, I agree entirely.

I've heard horror stories of vets handling gliders badly.. some vets will even offer to 'see' your glider when they've never done so before and know nothing about them.. just A: another client and more $$$ and B: oh hey, it's another rodent, why not? Sad but true. I ALWAYS ask if vets have prior experience with gliders now when I call looking for a vet for whatever reason.

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Well, I had actually called this vet because I found this vet's info on GC. I called and asked if they deal with gliders and they said yes. When I took my rescue in for a nail trim and an exam, it was the worst mistake ever going to this vet. I know people are always looking for good vets in their area, and instead of having so many different topics on finding vets, maybe expand the vet section here to include the ability to review vets so people can just click on that and read up on the different reviews of vets in their area.

Definitely a good idea.

I too agree, not all the vets GC lists on the sugargliderhelp page are all either A: good or B: valid. I've called a number from that list and well, I can't explain just how confused they were at the mention of a 'sugar glider', a few had no idea what one was at all. =/ I think people just started listing local vets, or perhaps vets changed staff and they no longer dealt with specific animals. Hard to say.

Definitely put your reviews in at this site as well since it's the only active review site I know of right now:

http://www.sugargliderhelp.com/links/pages/Sugar_Glider_Vet_Database/North_America/United_States/index.html

You can review breeders, rescues, vets and, I think vendors. Not positive about that one.

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Originally posted by kyro298

Definitely put your reviews in at this site as well since it's the only active review site I know of right now:

http://www.sugargliderhelp.com/links/pages/Sugar_Glider_Vet_Database/North_America/United_States/index.html

You can review breeders, rescues, vets and, I think vendors. Not positive about that one.

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This is the site that I was guided to on GC to post my review of the vet I had a bad experience with.

Yeah, it's the only one I know of, unfortunately.

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Originally posted by Kozi Gliders

Definitely a good idea.

I too agree, not all the vets GC lists on the sugargliderhelp page are all either A: good or B: valid. I've called a number from that list and well, I can't explain just how confused they were at the mention of a 'sugar glider', a few had no idea what one was at all. =/ I think people just started listing local vets, or perhaps vets changed staff and they no longer dealt with specific animals. Hard to say.

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I think some of the vets are old and either A. Vet office no longer exists B. Phone number change C. Vet moved to a different location

There was a phone number I called from there that USED to be a vet clinic that worked on suggies. But that vet moved to a different location. So they were able to provide me with correct information. Another time the place used to be a vet clinic, but that vet clinic closed. I feel like we should contact Eddie on GC any time the information is incorrect because he can go in and fix it/remove it.