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Oct 20, 2020

 Glider Stats

Glider Stats

MOM/Piper = 160 grams
DAUGHTER/Starling = 155 grams
DAD/Aerrow = 165 grams

Weight Notes: looks can indeed really be deceiving!
Now, Dad 'looks' smaller and lighter than the two girls, BUT he's actually heavier...
Then the daughter who 'looks' the heaviest (lots of young muscle there) is actually the lightest!?!
All three are on the 'heavy' end of Sugar Glider Weight. They are 'White-Faced Sugar Gliders', so this just may be typical of their type or something ;-)

* * * * * To Be Continued * * * * *

Sep 10, 2020

 Moth Attack!

The hapless moth fluttered into the Sugar Glider cage and immediately got the attention of one of the Sugar Gliders. The Sugar Glider seemed to be triangulating on the moth with its ears as they flicked back and forth like some marsupial bat, and those wide open eyes were transfixed on the moth's every move as it tracked and zeroed-in on the hapless creature. Then in a lightning flash of movement, the Sugar glider lept into the air gliding easily to catch the moth in its front paws, while quickly zipping it into its waiting jowls just before it landed on the side of the cage. The moth was consumed in an instant and as fast as this all happened, all returned to normal as if nothing happened when the Sugar Glider gave a quick look around for more morsels, then continued its playing with the other two Sugar Gliders. Totally awesome! I had no idea they were that into living insects. Inpressive...
Jun 25, 2020

 TENT bonding

The tent playtime seems to definitely help with bonding to my little darlings.

I have this small 6'x6'x5' tent with a bottom in it, where I put an upside-down 5 gallon bucket covered by a pillow case inside it, that I next will capture my three Sugar Gliders, then put them all into it, with me, then zip it up tight and let 'em loose! My God this is so much FUN!!!

My little lovely boy Sugar Glider Aerrow will climb the covered bucket and jump to me - still trying to get the two girls to do it. He's so smart, and will climb up my back to my head and make a leap onto the cube nest/bed I use to capture them in, which is hanging from the peak of the tent. Starling, the daughter, likes to run laps around the tent - SO MUCH SPACE! The mom, Piper seems to go from corner to corner, where she'll back in as a defensive move. - she still has a feral streak in her that I'm still working on.

All three will let me handle them in the tent playground without my fleece gloves - just bare hands and no nips/bites. I usually treat them all afterwards to some canned insects (grasshopper, wax worm, superworm, etc.) for being so good! I have to wear a long sleeve shirt to avoid their tiny little claws when they climb... We carry on like this about once a week, after I slide the tent to a new location to avoid impacting the grass too much.
Apr 15, 2020

 P A R A D I G M ____ SHIFT

I don't even know where to start - everything's changed and yet nothing's changed...

FIRST - lots of edits to my photos and journals... postings too old to edit, so tailor them with this new paradigm information...


Been awhile, and been getting more familiar with my three wonderful little Sugar Gliders as time goes on. Finally able to handle them more as they've become more comfortable with me. Playing in the tents really helps ;-)

Seems I've been a bit confused - I assumed the two bigger Sugar Gliders were the mom and dad, and the smaller one the daughter - but apparently I was wrong... The two bigger ones are both females with pouches, and the smaller one is actually a neutered male.

The one I assumed to be the mom, 'Piper', seems to be the 'dominant' one who does all the initial 'growling' (aka 'crabbing') when disturbed. But, she only does this when she's in one of the beddings/nests, and these two female Sugar Gliders stop when I run them out of their bedding/nest. The other female who joins-in as support - and whom I've mistaken for the 'dad' and been calling 'Aerrow' - is the daughter? Why is she so big compared to the smaller male 'dad' that I've been calling 'Starling' - mature male Sugar Gliders can be much smaller than mature female Sugar Gliders? WOW! I guess I don't really know how old any of these three are anyway. I now presume the 'child' Sugar Glider is over a year or two old, so she's rather 'grown' and no longer a 'baby girl'... she's very mature, but not 'dominant' like mom. And the neutered male, the 'dad', never joins in when the 'growling' starts up by the two females... I had assumed he was the 'baby' and just more timid - wild!

SO, while 'Piper' will remain being called 'Piper' (ie "pipe-down Piper"), the other female I've been calling 'Aerrow', I'm re-naming 'Starling', but will not refer to her as the 'baby girl' since she's quite mature and an adolescent female - however I will retain the 'Darling Starling' nickname for her as she was always just so very friendly, which I assumed it was because of her being a neutered male, but it's actually because she was just younger than the other two (even been calling her my new boyfriend as she was so friendly - have to start calling her my new girlfriend!).

Then, the male will no longer be called a 'baby girl' (probably pissing him off without knowing it, but then again being neutered he's probably not that offended either, heh, heh...). He'll no longer be 'Starling', and so shall be re-named 'Aerrow' ... and change his nickname from 'Hello Aerrow' to 'My Lovely Aerrow'... he's just so little, cute, and adorable!

Paradigm shift to say the least!!!

....... I am standing beside myself :-O
Feb 22, 2020

 Gotta new girlfriend

Her name is Starling and she's daughter to my mom and pop Sugar Gliders. Got to use bonding pouch earlier this week with Starling, and able to finally (for a short time) handle her outside the cage and pouch just sitting in my open hand (with fleece glove) munching on wax worms... got to rub her cheeks and forehead, and caress her back. Such a tender yet strong adolescent girl Glider, and quite charming :-)

Yesterday I bonded again with Piper. Used bonding pouch, and just like Starling I was able to finally (for a short time) handle her outside the cage and pouch just sitting in my open hand (with fleece glove) munching on wax worms... she still managed to give me a small nip getting her to that point, but didn't hurt. Took some patience waiting out the growling tantrums, but in-between got some good petting in. Actually able to get some purr-like sounds out of her as she would finally surrender to my caresses. Afterwards, she seems more tame - she will still throw a growling tantrum, but only for a few seconds rather than the usual several minutes (until I dump her out of the nest where she'd stop - lingering nest protection mode...). However even the tantrums seem to occur less frequent. What a lady!

Then there's Aerrow, my girlfriend's pop... my lovely Aerrow - he bonds with me daily, loving to be caressed and always looking for me when I enter the room (and such stirrings usually sets off Piper if they're in the same nest). Compared to the other two females who are also beautiful mature vibrant Sugar Gliders, he's very much the gentleman - more hesitant yet adventurous...
Feb 14, 2020

 More on Piper's growling/biting problem

OK - seems the only time Piper does this 'tantrum' thing is when she's in a nest - never does it outside the nest. Therefore it's GOTTA be some protectiveness of the nest thing left over from birthing joy's/joeys. And Starling never does the growling thing unless Piper's doing it - so GOTTA be some mother/daughter support thing.

Aerrow however NEVER joins in and will either just bail out of the nest when the two start up, or he'll wait for me to do something about it (like run ballistic mom and daughter out of the nest which stops their growling/snapping immediately as they seek one of the other two nests, and gives Aerrow the nest by himself, and usually he'll also get a good head/cheek rub with back massage for being such a lovely )

Reward good behavior - discourage bad behavior

Still, once I've ran the two trouble makers out of the nest and before they hide away in one of the other nests, I'll give each a 'petting' once they're out and no longer carrying-on...

...also, Piper is now actually allowing me to pet her - even in the nest - occasionally at least, and without being so skiddish ~ gotta wear her down and re-tame her ;-D
Feb 5, 2020


Piper developed some feral tendencies during pregnancy ~ protecting the pregnancy, then the newborns, and later the nest. She discouraged handling by growling and snapping, and therefore got handled less - worsening the skittishness. Finally even after the young ones left the nest, this 'habit' remained. My mission: bring her back to civilization :-D
Jan 27, 2020

 Journal for the Storm Hawks - SKY NIGHTS

Piper is my Sugar Glider mom... she has this growling/biting problem that my other two Sugar Gliders (dad and daughter) do not have. I figure most if her issue is she's just 'put-out' by all that's happened to her lately, and even though none of it is my fault, I still get to deal with it.

First, she's been uprooted from her previous owner - new surrounding, new caregiver, new scents, etc. Second, her husband is somehow 'different' - he's been neutered. Third, one of her daughter's is 'missing' - the breeder I got her from gave away one daughter after getting the family from the lady moving overseas... gave the second daughter away to another lady who lost one of her two gliders and the remaining one bonded with the second daughter so she gave it to her. Fourth, she got used to 'protecting the nest' during her pregnancy/birthing and has just redeemed the habit.

PLAN: handle her as much as possible - do bonding sessions frequently - ignore the biting attempts - discourage the growling.

Pipe down Piper (mom)
Hello Aerrow (dad)
Darling Starling (daughter)

The Storm Hawks - SKY NIGHTS
Piper (L) Aerrow (M) Starling (R)
(and that's Radaar on Aerrow's shoulders.... some kinda rabbit wingman)

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