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kyro298 Glider Sprinkles      CO, USA 15262 Posts quote:
Originally posted by Anita Rae
Yes there are times that we have to question things but we also have to respect each other. I think I am more afraid of those who think that they know everything there is to know about gliders than I am of someone trying something new or different.
 saturngirl Glider SC, USA 113 Posts Catman, yes my male sugar glider is neutered but it wasn't to modify his behavior he was already a sweet little guy to begin with. His neuter was performed by a very good exotic vet and I got to be with him the whole time even during the neuter. I knew I was going to get him a female cage mate and didn't want any babies. Also, neutering is something very good to practice since there are so many homeless animals in the world....on the point of sugar gliders there's a lot out there looking for homes why bring more into the world???? Answer that question. My dog is neutered, my male cat is neutered and my female cat is spayed. Rita and everybody else if you don't like what is said on other forums simply don't read what's being said and move on to something else or better yet don't go to that forum. I post this anonymously to avoid flaming. First of all, this topic would have died, it was getting there. Another thing. I've had a glider get into vodka before, it was an accident because he discovered how to unlatch his cage, and that did not kill him so I am supposed to believe that the minimumal 'alcohol content' of mouthwash will kill them? So now you may not believe be because I posted this anonymously but it's very true. I'm sure from my typing style I'll be easily identifiable. But accidents happen and I'm an excellent owner.
justsomeuser Starting Member 6 Posts thats funny.. because HUMANS and ANIMALS are different.. Humans ingest Aspertame all the time and don't die from it.. are you going to give it to your gliders?? i would hope not!! Animal's digestive systems aren't made for ingesting any types of chemicals. The Sodium Benzate that is found in the mouthwash is actually a DIFFERENT type of Sodium Benzate. It is actually a man made version which has different compounds in it.. IT IS CHEMICAL! Also the Polysorbate 80 AGAIN is used in HUMANS FOODS.. i'm sorry but if i read a study that says that something can cause cancer in animals (you can also read about how it caused cancer in rodents too) then i would prefer to stay away, You can come up with as many dilluted reasons as to why its ok to spray mouthwash in your gliders faces because none of your are mature enough to look at the facts. You just know that it is for the better for YOURSELFS and not for the betterment of your glider's life and thats fine. You can be shelfish pet owners all you want justsomeuser Starting Member 6 Posts my point is that if the intros are going that bad and you are worried about DEATH then maybe those gliders just should not be together in the same cage. ALSO sorry i said face, but either way - where ever you spray it, your glider is going to clean it off and swallow more than needed. If you want to say that humans are animals fine.. we are all mammals. But we are HUMANS we are more evolved and adapted to things like CHEMICALS!! THat was my point was that just because it is safe for humans, its safe for all animals ESPECIALLY FRAGILE DELICATE LITTLE CREATURES LIKE SUGAR GLIDERS!!! If you want to risk it fine, do so.. I cant save your suggies.. But tell ANY breeder or rescue about your "training method" and see if you get approved for an adoption justsomeuser Starting Member 6 Posts i also things its odd that one post that agreed with me is all of a sudden GONE justsomeuser Starting Member 6 Posts catman, now youre just arguing semantics.. ok we ARE animals.. maybe i should have said " IF YOU WANT TO USE THAT ARGUEMENT THAT WE ARE ALL ANIMALS AS AN EXCUSE THEN FINE" We are mammals, and mammals are animals and animals (some) are mammals. Ok? Happy? So if you are saying that chemicals are harmful to people even though we ingest them everyday, then WHY WHY WHY would you subject your pet to them if you dont have to??? NOT to mention the cruelty of scaring your pets to the point that they forget about their natural instincts and just run and hide.. that doesn't sound CRUEL?? I really honestly, and not ALL THAT concerned about thepersonal pets of others, even though i have mentioned that feel sorry for the one's who have had this method used on them.. what scares me is that this completely INHUMANE way of "training" sugar gliders is being passed around to owners who might not know better, and obviously those who heed the advice either dont know better or dont care enough that this could potentially HURT their gliders emotionally and phsycically. and ya know, even if the rescues dont ask specifically about your training methods, they COULD ask for your user name on boards such as these and they COULD see that you use this method.. and really, if you think that there is NOTHING wrong with this method of training, they why not be honesty and tell them what you intend to do if you need to do introductions.. i mean, if it is a good way to train and is harmless, people who are adopting animals out wouldn't have an issue with you doing it.. right??
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for a few days, than one missing a tail or foot or even death. These poor little guys don't have a choice about being in a cage and it is our responsibility to do everything in our power to make it as stress free and comfy as possible for ALL of them. You cant tell me they would be happier by them-selfs. Its a shame to right off such a simple solution to a serious problem, almost a little selfish. Who knows, they may never get along but you should try everything you can. Good luck