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Jan 21 2011
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stephi25 Glider GliderMap Visit stephi25's Photo Album USA 69 Posts


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Jan 21 2011
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stephi25 Glider GliderMap Visit stephi25's Photo Album USA 69 Posts
that's Samson now he looks much better
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Jan 21 2011
09:17:50 PM
Kozi Fuzzy Wuzzy GliderMap Visit Kozi's Photo Album Kozi's Journal WI, USA 1278 Posts
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by stephi25</i>
<br />that's Samson now he looks much better
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Agreed, super cute! Good job so far, he looks fantastic, ESPECIALLY compared to before! :D I'm happy he has a new owner who's made him look so much happier.
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Jan 21 2011
11:14:44 PM
1989jeremy Super Glider Visit 1989jeremy's Photo Album 1989jeremy's Journal USA 352 Posts
i agree with kozi..but he is a cute lil guy...an after watchin this guys facebook page i dont see how he could spend an hour with each person givin them any type of info as he gives his number to anybody askin about his animals so i would think thats impossible but at least your hear to learn the good stuff an proper way to care for your lil boy
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Jan 22 2011
04:09:56 AM
KuroNeko Fuzzy Wuzzy Gliderpedia Editor Visit KuroNeko's Photo Album USA 1617 Posts
Poor thing :(

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Wow! I didn't noticed these was a 6th page when I commented. He looks great now! Do you plan on getting him a buddy?

Edited by - KuroNeko on Jan 22 2011 05:58:45 PM
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Jan 22 2011
07:49:41 AM
bholland7 Face Hugger Visit bholland7's Photo Album bholland7's Journal USA 650 Posts
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by stephi25</i>
<br />that's Samson now he looks much better
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Wow, your are doing great by this little one. He looks like a different glider. Great Job....
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Jan 22 2011
06:24:57 PM
dpatters28 Goofy Gorillatoes GliderMap Gliderpedia Editor Visit dpatters28's Photo Album USA 3134 Posts
I agree with everyone else.. you're doing an excellent job! She looks like a whole new glider!
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Jan 22 2011
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stephi25 Glider GliderMap Visit stephi25's Photo Album USA 69 Posts
I have 3 I have pics of all 3 on my profile Samson, Delilah, and jax, HE IS NOT from that ZAk guy!!
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Jan 22 2011
08:44:42 PM
stephi25 Glider GliderMap Visit stephi25's Photo Album USA 69 Posts

Samson & Delilah


Jax
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Jan 23 2011
03:20:44 AM
KuroNeko Fuzzy Wuzzy Gliderpedia Editor Visit KuroNeko's Photo Album USA 1617 Posts
awwww, look how precious!
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Apr 20 2011
07:46:23 PM
DizzyPo Fuzzy Wuzzy Gliderpedia Editor USA 1241 Posts
So did anyone ever go visit this place?
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Apr 20 2011
10:09:50 PM
1989jeremy Super Glider Visit 1989jeremy's Photo Album 1989jeremy's Journal USA 352 Posts
i doubt it
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Apr 20 2011
10:59:55 PM
smoochikiss Starting Member 3 Posts
I dont even know that I care to comment here but I did take a quick look at keels fb page. I am surprised nobody else has commented that the guy refers to his animals as "products." That in itself speaks volumes about his mentality. SSOOO sad!!! =(
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Apr 21 2011
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1989jeremy Super Glider Visit 1989jeremy's Photo Album 1989jeremy's Journal USA 352 Posts
exactly..honestly i dont really approve of the fact he always wants to speak over the phone when somebody askes him a question on his wall...i think its much easier to just give them the answer there cuz im sure he gets asked the same question over an over an over..let alone is it the right information..eh who knows...he does sell alot of exotics to actually give them the proper care though
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Apr 21 2011
06:17:48 AM
dpatters28 Goofy Gorillatoes GliderMap Gliderpedia Editor Visit dpatters28's Photo Album USA 3134 Posts
The person who promised to visit and report to us hasn't posted in a few months. I think the reason nobody visited back in January was because of all the bad weather. Well, it's April now so snow can't be used as an excuse. I can't believe he's still selling his "products" after the scrutiny he was under. The power of the almighty dollar.
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Apr 21 2011
12:43:51 PM
ThisOne Joey 15 Posts
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by 1989jeremy</i>
<br />exactly..honestly i dont really approve of the fact he always wants to speak over the phone when somebody askes him a question on his wall...i think its much easier to just give them the answer there cuz im sure he gets asked the same question over an over an over..let alone is it the right information..eh who knows...he does sell alot of exotics to actually give them the proper care though
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There's no proof when you speak on the phone. Messages and emails leave proof. I personally won't deal with people who ONLY want to speak on the phone.

I think him advertising on Facebook is shady too. He doesn't have caresheets, just notes, and pictures to lure people into a sale. If he made a website *which can be free* I think it would make him seem more credible. He could then post caresheets for all the animals he sells and his policies for potential buyers to make a decision from. From what I can tell he doesn't ask future owners anything about what they know. I wouldn't buy from anyone who doesn't handle their breeding sugar gliders. If you can't give all your animals attention then maybe you should cut back. And how would you know if the gliders have good personalities? That's passed on to the joeys.

And nipped gliders are common. I see gliders missing an ear on thepetglider, or hear about joeys with limbs nipped, or with parts of their tail missing when they come OOP. The fact that he has so many is weird, like he gets them because they're discounted or something. But that's pure speculation. Maybe he produces them and doesn't sell them because he believes they'd make inferior pets.

I'm also curious as to where he gets his lineaged animals. I would think any good breeder wouldn't sell to him if they knew the diet his gliders were on. Pellets aren't that bad in my opinion, my gliders get Suncoast Wholesome Balance but they don't eat more than a few pellets per week if even that, but it sounds like they make up a good portion of his gliders' diets. And with corn being the second ingredient I can't imagine the Ca:Ph ratios in Happy Glider. Does anyone know what they are?

Assuming the only real complaints were made here or on his Facebook page, I don't see why he isn't still selling. Chat boards or places like Facebook aren't necessarily reliable, convincing, or truthful. He seems pretty under the radar too, advertising on Facebook or hoobly solely (or other advertising places). He doesn't brag about having 'the best' or anything like that either. Someone local should definitely check out his facility.
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Apr 21 2011
02:48:31 PM
1989jeremy Super Glider Visit 1989jeremy's Photo Album 1989jeremy's Journal USA 352 Posts
i agree with u on that
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Apr 21 2011
07:05:08 PM
JeremyLexie Fuzzy Wuzzy Visit JeremyLexie's Photo Album USA 1190 Posts
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by angelmom</i>
<br />So I was facebook stalking this guy OP put up and found this gem

<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Even Keel Exotics- They make great pets. They bond to people individually and can be trained to do tricks. If you'd like you can come see them and get a chance to handle them so you can see if you like them or not<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></font id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">

Who here has taught their gliders to do tricks?!

I can get Winry to jump to me when called about %75 of the time if its a good day...
<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></font id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"> My husband has taught our gliders to do tricks, in pouch, out of punch, to him and back and they listen, it's so funny.
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Apr 21 2011
07:37:38 PM
Willows Tree Fuzzy Wuzzy Visit Willows Tree's Photo Album USA 1294 Posts
I have taught my gliders MANY tricks:

Jump on the back of my head, when I wipe up pee.
Tangle in my hair.
Jump on my face.
Jump on my arm.
Pee on my arm.
Jump & make me jump..Grab the mealie out of my hand.
Grab the other 2 mealies I dropped when I jumped.
I'm a regular Glider Trainer, I am.
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Apr 21 2011
07:40:58 PM
Willows Tree Fuzzy Wuzzy Visit Willows Tree's Photo Album USA 1294 Posts
Steph ~> They all look great! Love the yogurt pic especially.
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Apr 21 2011
09:02:41 PM
misscarl Fuzzy Wuzzy GliderMap Visit misscarl's Photo Album USA 1169 Posts
I just spent so much time reading this whole thread. it made me SICK!
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Apr 22 2011
12:46:06 AM
dpatters28 Goofy Gorillatoes GliderMap Gliderpedia Editor Visit dpatters28's Photo Album USA 3134 Posts
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by Willows Tree</i>
<br />I have taught my gliders MANY tricks:

Jump on the back of my head, when I wipe up pee.
Tangle in my hair.
Jump on my face.
Jump on my arm.
Pee on my arm.
Jump & make me jump..Grab the mealie out of my hand.
Grab the other 2 mealies I dropped when I jumped.
I'm a regular Glider Trainer, I am.
=0}

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