I had planned to use the canned mango and papaya. I have purchased the already ground fly pupae so other then just mixing everything really good the only thing that will need grinding is the bee pollen?

That makes it easy then! I rarely find a papaya or mango juice/nectar that is 100%. Just put the bee pollen in at the beginning and I think it'd be okay.

I use the magic bullet to grind the pupae and pollen into a powder. I know that isn't a requirement though.

Have you found the canned papaya and mango juice in town Kyro? I never thought it would be an issue until Dizzy said they can't ever find it.

No, I've never seen it where it was pure juice without the added stuff or at least a mix of other juices. I use mangos and papayas.

ugh LOL! so glad I am asking questions now. Fresh mango's and papaya? I don't thing my local store has those right now. Or is this something you can find in the frozen food section?

I've gotten them at King Soopers, Albertsons and WalMart. I picked them up at King Soopers just yesterday.

My neighborhood store is lacking. LOL Its the King Soopers on S. Academy. I will try safeway.

Have you tried whole foods? It's on N. Academy. There is an Indian grocery called Sai Mart on Vickers drive. Seoul Oriental Grocery Market is on S. Academy. When I can't find what I want at my usual grocery stores, I go to mexican, asian and indian grocery stores.

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Have you tried whole foods? It's on N. Academy. There is an Indian grocery called Sai Mart on Vickers drive. Seoul Oriental Grocery Market is on S. Academy. When I can't find what I want at my usual grocery stores, I go to mexican, asian and indian grocery stores.

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yes, the Mexican stores are a great place to buy mango and papaya.

We have also ordered canned fruit juices at the grocery store. It is not hard for grocers to put special orders in with their provisioning companies so long as you are a steady customer.

You can also order canned mango and papaya on the internet but because they are "heavy" the shipping charges are a bit of a downer.

If you only have a few gliders, blending a big 'ole papaya may sound like a bit much, so you can blend it and the mango and freeze it in bags or other plastic containers and use it only as you need it since they don't keep that long at room temperature.

Dizzy are you in the Springs too? I will check those out. =D Thanks. I know there is a Mexican market on Circle not too far from me. I should check it out. I hear they carry cuts of meat I wouldn't find at a regularly grocery store too so I could find treats for my other critters.

I live in Dallas, but I'm from Colorado so I'm familiar with parts of the eastern half, mostly the south eastern corner.

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I live in Dallas, but I'm from Colorado so I'm familiar with parts of the eastern half, mostly the south eastern corner.

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If you are in the Dallas area, we have found luck in finding bee pollen at Whole Foods Market. Also Walmart has fresh papaya and mango quite often. The also carry the Ceres brand of papaya juice. We also get Jumex brand mango juice at Sams Club.

I love when the Dallas Farmers Market has the yellow mango's I love (i have a hard time finding them), I think they'll be back in season June; I'll be buying a case or two and freezing most of it. Fiesta usually has better looking papaya/mango's than Walmart, but that depends on the neighborhood the walmart is in, i think. I don't know if there is a Fiesta close to yall though.

ah, Well hello former neighbor!

I NEED to know what is meant by the meat component of this diet.

I DO NOT understand it at all and I feel like i'm doing something wrong by not providing this component.

The only canned Papaya and Mango juices I can find is Jumex's Papaya-Pineapple Nectar and Mango Nectar, Goya's Papaya & Goya's Mango, and R.W. Knudsen Family's Mango and Yellow Papaya. Do any of these work? What brands do you order?

I've been using Papaya and Mango from my local grocery store but they never have any ripe ones and it makes everything a PITA to try cutting them up and blending with the mixture.

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I NEED to know what is meant by the meat component of this diet.

I DO NOT understand it at all and I feel like i'm doing something wrong by not providing this component.

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the protein source is the egg,protein powder,Dehydrated Fly Pupae, and the yogurt. www.sugarglider.com/nutrition/viewrecipe.asp?item=36 if you look at the nutritional analysis you can see where the protein comes from and that its there.

Shadow I am referring to when Lucky glider says this......

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A Word on Fruit and Veggie and Meat Compotes

You should also offer a compote of properly balanced Fruits, Veggies and Meat on the side of the soup. Offer two tablespoons per glider. Watch out for high Ph contents of meats. Must offset so overall Ca:Ph ratio is 2:1

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oh.....dont know how i missed that >.< lol

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oh.....dont know how i missed that >.< lol

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Heee, thats understandable.


Um yes thats what i'm worried about, my girls balled up last night over a piece of egg, that was really abnormal for them, so I was wondering if it was because of the lack of meat, I have not provided them with a meat component yet...so maybe thats the issue?

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oh.....dont know how i missed that >.< lol

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Heee, thats understandable.


Um yes thats what i'm worried about, my girls balled up last night over a piece of egg, that was really abnormal for them, so I was wondering if it was because of the lack of meat, I have not provided them with a meat component yet...so maybe thats the issue?

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I'm glad you brought up the meat thing.


One thing people often get confused with on the LGRS Suggie Soup is that it's just part of an overall nicely-balanced diet. It would be kind of "boring" to just eat soup all the time. Gliders love to hold their food and run off with a piece of food to a favorite "safe place."

That said, the soup is nutritionally complete, but we advocate variety and a rotation of fruit and veggie relishes and some meats too. Ground turkey meat can be rolled into tiny balls and baked with egg and ground veggies for example. They also love chopped, skinless, boiled chicken. Even lean hamburger is good every once and a while.

Your girls "balling up" over some special food they both love is actually common. Gliders fight over food sometimes. If they love a particular food, you can offer two dishes so they can feel less competitive about it. But there are skirmishes all the time between gliders over food. That's one of the reasons we do not advocate having food around initially during strange glider introductions.

Please be sure to hold them gently and check them for scratches or bites after they ball up over food or anything else. Gently separate their fur to see if there are any abrasions on their skin. If you find any, it is a good idea to separate them until the wounds heal. They may "overgroom" a wound and cause damage if they see a wound. I hope they are OK!

Thank you for the reply.

Well....I think since the introductions the smallest one by mass is trying to be dominant. She is 2 years older but 22g smaller than the glider she balled up with. I checked them and my other two like you said and everything looked normal.

I fed chicken along with the diet last night and they ate pretty well. I'm noticing for my girls that the portion sizes are way to big. lol But I will figure that part out.

im glad the meat thing is more of a treat and im not missing anything in their diet. i will start having my mom leave a bit of chicken plain for the boys since she cooks it so often.

my small glider rune is always pushing around his big boned brother vash as well vicious XD lol. the portions are also to big for mine and i dont like wasting food. i increase the amount every now and then just to make sure im feeding them enough. gave them 2T of fruit last night and they have a ton left over and i know about them sucking all the juice out and spiting the rest out.

Glad mine aren't the only ones. Last night they got about 1.5 TB of chicken, 3 TB of LGRS, 4 TB of Blueberries and 4 TB of lettuces.

When I look at the fruit and veggies bowl it looks like nothing is gone but the chicken and LGRS bowl has a million little crescents laying in it. lol

try Dahlia_2020's fruit and veggie recipes www.sugarglider.com/nutrition/ they may like it better since there is many different fruit and veggies mixed in. i looked at their fruit bowl again and i can clearly see there is a pile of untouch fruit since i can still see chunks left. i always worry im not feeding them enough since if i ever do more then 1T of a part of their diet they always leave food so i make the servings just a little bit over 1T and every day i find their bowls empty.

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try Dahlia_2020's fruit and veggie recipes www.sugarglider.com/nutrition/ they may like it better since there is many different fruit and veggies mixed in. i looked at their fruit bowl again and i can clearly see there is a pile of untouch fruit since i can still see chunks left. i always worry im not feeding them enough since if i ever do more then 1T of a part of their diet they always leave food so i make the servings just a little bit over 1T and every day i find their bowls empty.

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Yes I agree. Some of those recipes are really yummy. And variety is always good.

Thanks Ed! And here are the direct links to all my current recipes at the moment... maybe one of these days I will find enough time to put together that website I keep promising... lol!


Fruit Cocktails (7)


Banana/Papaya/Watermelon Fruit Cocktail
http://www.sugarglider.com/nutrition/viewrecipe.asp?item=32

Kiwi/Strawberry/Banana/Papaya Fruit Cocktail
http://www.sugarglider.com/nutrition/viewrecipe.asp?item=72

Peach/Pineapple/Honeydew/Papaya Fruit Cocktail
http://www.sugarglider.com/nutrition/viewrecipe.asp?item=61

Papaya/Strawberry/Blueberry/Raspberry/Blackberry Fruit Cocktail
http://www.sugarglider.com/nutrition/viewrecipe.asp?item=74

Papaya/Mango/Blueberry Fruit Cocktail
http://www.sugarglider.com/nutrition/viewrecipe.asp?item=41

Papaya/Apple/Pear/Cantaloupe Fruit Cocktail
http://www.sugarglider.com/nutrition/viewrecipe.asp?item=75

Nectarine/Apricot/Plum/Papaya Fruit Cocktail
http://www.sugarglider.com/nutrition/viewrecipe.asp?item=192


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Veggie Relishes (5)



Veggie Relish Recipe #1
http://www.sugarglider.com/nutrition/viewrecipe.asp?item=52

Veggie Relish Recipe #2
http://www.sugarglider.com/nutrition/viewrecipe.asp?item=92

Veggie Relish Recipe #3
http://www.sugarglider.com/nutrition/viewrecipe.asp?item=93

Veggie Relish Recipe #4
http://www.sugarglider.com/nutrition/viewrecipe.asp?item=80

Veggie Relish Recipe #5
http://www.sugarglider.com/nutrition/viewrecipe.asp?item=79


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Have you tried whole foods? It's on N. Academy. There is an Indian grocery called Sai Mart on Vickers drive. Seoul Oriental Grocery Market is on S. Academy. When I can't find what I want at my usual grocery stores, I go to mexican, asian and indian grocery stores.

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yes, the Mexican stores are a great place to buy mango and papaya...

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Oooh! GREAT idea! I've been having a horrible time finding good papaya lately but I hadn't thought of checking out those kind of grocery stores. I will have to do that. Thanks for the tip!

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try Dahlia_2020's fruit and veggie recipes www.sugarglider.com/nutrition/ they may like it better since there is many different fruit and veggies mixed in. i looked at their fruit bowl again and i can clearly see there is a pile of untouch fruit since i can still see chunks left. i always worry im not feeding them enough since if i ever do more then 1T of a part of their diet they always leave food so i make the servings just a little bit over 1T and every day i find their bowls empty.

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Yes I agree. Some of those recipes are really yummy. And variety is always good.

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Thanks Ed! And here are the direct links to all my current recipes at the moment... maybe one of these days I will find enough time to put together that website I keep promising... lol!


Fruit Cocktails (7)


Banana/Papaya/Watermelon Fruit Cocktail
http://www.sugarglider.com/nutrition/viewrecipe.asp?item=32

Kiwi/Strawberry/Banana/Papaya Fruit Cocktail
http://www.sugarglider.com/nutrition/viewrecipe.asp?item=72

Peach/Pineapple/Honeydew/Papaya Fruit Cocktail
http://www.sugarglider.com/nutrition/viewrecipe.asp?item=61

Papaya/Strawberry/Blueberry/Raspberry/Blackberry Fruit Cocktail
http://www.sugarglider.com/nutrition/viewrecipe.asp?item=74

Papaya/Mango/Blueberry Fruit Cocktail
http://www.sugarglider.com/nutrition/viewrecipe.asp?item=41

Papaya/Apple/Pear/Cantaloupe Fruit Cocktail
http://www.sugarglider.com/nutrition/viewrecipe.asp?item=75

Nectarine/Apricot/Plum/Papaya Fruit Cocktail
http://www.sugarglider.com/nutrition/viewrecipe.asp?item=192


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Veggie Relishes (5)



Veggie Relish Recipe #1
http://www.sugarglider.com/nutrition/viewrecipe.asp?item=52

Veggie Relish Recipe #2
http://www.sugarglider.com/nutrition/viewrecipe.asp?item=92

Veggie Relish Recipe #3
http://www.sugarglider.com/nutrition/viewrecipe.asp?item=93

Veggie Relish Recipe #4
http://www.sugarglider.com/nutrition/viewrecipe.asp?item=80

Veggie Relish Recipe #5
http://www.sugarglider.com/nutrition/viewrecipe.asp?item=79


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These are very helpful to anyone who needs ideas on rotating good blends to complement the soup. The soup itself is good, but you should feed it next to rotation of fruits, veggies, and sometimes meat-based proteins.

The links in the post above came out a little weird, so try clicking on the second hyperlink in each mention