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Dinosaurcake Glider  USA 146 Posts what about small dogs, kyro? i have a little pomeranian. and he's very very easy going and doesn't like animals. not like he'll bite them or get angry, but he just doesn't care about them. he's been around birds, hamsters, hedgehogs, and rabbits. I wouldn't leave him unsupervised, but I feel like I could trust him around them. kyro298 Glider Sprinkles     CO, USA 15262 Posts Dinosaurcake Glider USA 146 Posts quote:
Originally posted by kyro298
That's completely your call and always supervising is obviously safer BUT I very much believe that animals cannot always control their instincts. They are animals. Does your Pomeranian like little toys or to play with things that move fast? Gliders and other pets just do not mix. I've seen way too many horror stories come through here. It just isn't worth it to me.
no not at all actually. XD he doesn't play with toys ever. i don't know why, but he's always been like that. He likes food and being pet. thats pretty much it ahahha. i've tried multiple times to get him things to play with, but he's just completely uninterested.
Some photos from our members suggiemom1980 Glider IN, USA 68 Posts My mom has toy poodles. The largest one weighs 4 lbs. She laid the pouch down on the sofa with two of her gliders in it, walked to the door which was ten steps away, grabbed her mail and walked back. Literally, 10 seconds or less. When she got back, the pouch was in the other room, one glider out and dead, the other glider in the pouch and dead. The female had a joey IP. All killed in just seconds, by her 4 lb poodle. It was heartbreaking. LuckyGlider Zippy Glidershorts TX, USA 5266 Posts Based on LGRS observations and records, here is the Top 5 list of how gliders die: #1. Malnourishment (pellet diets, non-diets), leading to HLP, self-mutilation, dehydration, organ trouble #2. Crushed and/or Eaten by Dogs #3. Other gliders (joey rejection, mating wounds, over-grooming, attacks) #4. Escape to outdoors, or inhumane release to outdoors (exposure, starvation, dehydration) #5. Various diseases or internal organ problems. We have dogs at the rescue but we have doors and stoppers underneath the doors to the glider rooms. We put the dogs outside or in kennels when it's time to interact with or feed the gliders. A few facts: We have taken in no less than five or six gliders over the past year who's mates were eaten by dogs or who have themselves had run-in with dogs but survived. Rescue Carmela was snatched from a dog's mouth by the dog's owner at a park. Carmela had been lost or abandoned outside. Rescue Ponchito is still recovering from a dog incident while at off-site foster care this past month. He required stitches, antibiotics and had nerve damage that repaired itself luckily in a few weeks. Bottom line: Letting dogs "play" with them is a bad, bad, bad idea. Even playful, loving dogs who are well-intentioned can unknowingly kill a glider. Some person who calls herself an animal behaviorist put a YouTube video out their with her "behavior modified" doing interacting with gliders. I told her it was horrifically irresponsible for her to put the idea out there that this was a good idea because people will try it and end up killing their gliders. It's just a dangerous thing to do and even worse to encourage other people to do it. I cannot even guess how many gliders are now dead because of that irresponsible video. Almost as bad as one impulse-buy glider hawker we know who jams forty joeys into a sack and goes to trade shows to sell them. This ass has photos of gliders on dogs's heads in a photo album. He uses those photos as "aids" to tell the LIE that it's generally OK to mix your gliders up with other animals. Now consider his sleazoid motivation. You are at some pit flea market or trade show. You are to begin with an animal lover and attracted to the sugar glider display. You probably already have other animals in the house. He pushes gliders on you saying that all will be ok. You make a snap decision and buy. You take them home, only to find out your cat, dog, etc. things gliders are mice. Death or horrible maiming happens. You cry. You then curse this guy. In fact our first rescue glider, Critter, who eventually became a pet, was "widowed" when her cage mate was eaten by a dog - within a week of its owner seeing that jerk's photo album at a local trade event. So just don't. And if you do, don't brag about it because some gullible soul out there is going to try it and your bragging about will just cause death elsewhere. Please. Brittney569 Super Glider USA 259 Posts Yes this is the same dog that attacked my bird. He bit her and now she wont go near him. He is fine and the only reason he got attacked was because the lock on his door jammed up and didn't lock. Yes I know glider can be hurt, killed and so on by my other animals but I don't have a big huge house. I have three bedrooms, living room, family room, kitchen, bathroom. There is me, my mom, brother in my house and then we have 3 dogs, 5 birds, a cat, tank full of 20+ fish and Gremlin and Bella. They are going to know they each other are there if you all like it or not. Yes I can understand why you all would be scared about my dong in my from with my suggies. I was too at first but I would sit in there with her and she would never attack, bite or go after them in the cage while they where out playing IN THE CAGE. She even got bit on the nose by both of them when she was sniffing them WHILE THEY WERE IN THE CAGE. She didn't do anything. Now this dosen't mean I trust her enough to take them out while she is in the room. She know that too. When its play time all I got to say is "Ginger its play time say goodbye" and she leaves. I shut the door and we have play time. But what y'all don't seem to be getting is that I WILL NEVER TAKE MY SUGGIE OUT OF THEIR CAGE WHILE MY OTHER PETS ARE OUT! I would never do that. I love them to much. Also Ginger can't knock their cage over for where it is in my room. Also with the fear and of her attacking the cage and bitting it. She is from a family of show dogs. The owner would train them not to attack other dog cages, to bite their own cage, ect. Now do I think she would attack the cage? No I don't think she would. Do I think she would eat my suggies if they were OUT of their cage? Only if they weren't on me. Again I will say I WOULD NEVER TAKE MY SUGGIES OUT WHILE MY OTHER ANIMALS ARE OUT. When I leave my house or living room I shut and lock my door. Ginger now dosen't seem to care that they are there and will only go to them if they bark or I walk in there for feeding time and then leaves. WintersSong Fuzzy Wuzzy 1417 Posts Brittney, are you not getting that it takes JUST a second for something terrible to happen? What happens if the lock on the glider cage doesn't stick? I get that you won't take the gliders out while other pets are out.. And great! BUT what about while the animal is in the cage? Are you not getting that another animal can hurt AND EVEN KILL another animal through the cage bars?? It has happened before. Even animals that have NEVER attacked.. seem like the sweetest animals in the whole wide world.. never been taught to attack.. Yes, even they can attack. My cat? Sweetest cat in the world. Never has any interest in mice that get loose in the house. Seemed to be doing great with my hamster cage that I placed in the kitchen. She would look in there, watch her, and sleep near the cage sometimes.. but mostly she left the hamster alone. Then, one day... I walked into the room and I see her pawing at the cage. Had I not walked in at that moment, she could've killed my hamster easily! I also have a scar on my chin caused by a dog bite, from the "sweetest dog in the whole wide world!" I was laying on the floor, he came out of nowhere and chomp! What set him off, we'll never know.. but he had never been trained or taught to attack, had no history of doing so, and was always *up until that point* the sweetest dog in the whole world. I live in a small house, too. There's not many options for placing a sugar glider cage. I keep mine in my bedroom. Did the noise keep me up at first? Of course.. but it's the only room that my cats are never in. Do they know that the gliders are in the house? Of course, but they never see them when I am not RIGHT there. And even then, I prefer to keep the cats away from them.
LuckyGlider Zippy Glidershorts TX, USA 5266 Posts quote:
Originally posted by momasangel
She knows the risks. I think that was a cute story, thank you for sharing.
my perspective is decidedly biased - having sad experience with single gliders who are surrendered to our rescue after their mates are eaten or maimed by dogs - but it AIN'T CUTE. It's at best innocently irresponsible to post on how dogs 'get along' with gliders. Anything that can be passed on to ignorant glider owners who don't know better - which can then cause death or maiming is the furthest thing away from "cute." And now it gets downright ugly when someone is warned about the dangers, in fact everyone is warned, and people persist in propagating the idea by saying it's "cute." C'mon, that is just as irresponsible, dangerous, and misleading as the original post. OK momasangel, it is nice for you to stick up for the poster here, but someone has to stick up for the gliders. Besides the basics of running a rescue, we blog, tweet, etc. and post like crazy to debunk all the myths and silly notions that people come up with. There's a lot of garbage out there on what is good or bad for gliders. Mixing them with dogs = bad. please. save a life and support the innocent gliders' viewpoint. Not that it's OK for this person to put her own animals in danger, it is worse to INFECT other people with the idea. sorry to be such a buzzkill, but I will err on the side of sounding like a crank and being rude because this topic is too important to pass off as being cute. Causing death and maiming is not cute. It's inhumane.
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